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		<title>By: djnforce9</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-12143</link>
		<dc:creator>djnforce9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 13:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m about to add Mega Menu support to the website of the company I work at and have been reading up on them. I agree with your points in regards to the harm a poor implementation of Mega Menus can cause. I think some people think &quot;look this is cool!&quot; and slap it on without really knowing how to do so properly and thus it ends up being a downgrade for the website rather than an improvement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about to add Mega Menu support to the website of the company I work at and have been reading up on them. I agree with your points in regards to the harm a poor implementation of Mega Menus can cause. I think some people think &#8220;look this is cool!&#8221; and slap it on without really knowing how to do so properly and thus it ends up being a downgrade for the website rather than an improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Someguyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someguyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rlush,

Because your site is an intranet, you may be able to achieve that &#039;up front and centre&#039;  feeling by automatically personalizing the site when the user logs in. Examples are portal sites, Windows 8 Start screen, Facebook, etc. In addition, do some research on your users and the type of users they are. If you work for a social media company or a I.T. company, best bet is they would be able to easily navigate a Mega Menu or enjoy some times of social connection/personalization. If you are working for a hospital and creating their intranet, you&#039;d probably have many people with a wide variety of skills and computer litaercy that you would be forced to create simple navigation and strive to create something for the lowest common denominator of user.

I remember a while back that Google wanted to get rid of their &#039;ugly black bar&#039; and when they implemented a version of their own Mega Menu (remember when you had to roll over the logo, and then all of their sub sites would populate, like Gmail, Shopping, Maps, Etc...) they had huge backlash from the community. One of the biggest issues they had was simple: it required users to think. 

Every positive statement i have read on mega menu&#039;s requires some amount of thinking. But right there is the problem, thinking. As Steve Krug wrote &quot;Don&#039;t Make Me Think,&quot;  we are all reminded that thinking and the web just don&#039;t mix well together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rlush,</p>
<p>Because your site is an intranet, you may be able to achieve that &#8216;up front and centre&#8217;  feeling by automatically personalizing the site when the user logs in. Examples are portal sites, Windows 8 Start screen, Facebook, etc. In addition, do some research on your users and the type of users they are. If you work for a social media company or a I.T. company, best bet is they would be able to easily navigate a Mega Menu or enjoy some times of social connection/personalization. If you are working for a hospital and creating their intranet, you&#8217;d probably have many people with a wide variety of skills and computer litaercy that you would be forced to create simple navigation and strive to create something for the lowest common denominator of user.</p>
<p>I remember a while back that Google wanted to get rid of their &#8216;ugly black bar&#8217; and when they implemented a version of their own Mega Menu (remember when you had to roll over the logo, and then all of their sub sites would populate, like Gmail, Shopping, Maps, Etc&#8230;) they had huge backlash from the community. One of the biggest issues they had was simple: it required users to think. </p>
<p>Every positive statement i have read on mega menu&#8217;s requires some amount of thinking. But right there is the problem, thinking. As Steve Krug wrote &#8220;Don&#8217;t Make Me Think,&#8221;  we are all reminded that thinking and the web just don&#8217;t mix well together.</p>
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		<title>By: RLush</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-8081</link>
		<dc:creator>RLush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi AJ 
your article and subsequent feedback was very though provoking for me. My org will be redeveloping our employee intranet and the most frequent feedback we recieve from our users is how difficult it is to find the info they are looking for. Our site has grown dramatically with everyone wanting to be &#039;up front and centre&#039; which of is not possible. My question is - if megemenus are such a pain, what would be a good alternative in terms of improving navigation and finding the info you need?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi AJ<br />
your article and subsequent feedback was very though provoking for me. My org will be redeveloping our employee intranet and the most frequent feedback we recieve from our users is how difficult it is to find the info they are looking for. Our site has grown dramatically with everyone wanting to be &#8216;up front and centre&#8217; which of is not possible. My question is &#8211; if megemenus are such a pain, what would be a good alternative in terms of improving navigation and finding the info you need?</p>
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		<title>By: Mega Menus: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly &#124; Brandemonium</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-6956</link>
		<dc:creator>Mega Menus: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly &#124; Brandemonium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] recently came across AJ Kohn&#8217;s post &#8220;Mega Menus are Mega Awful&#8221; over at Blind Five Year Old. I have to say that I agree with almost every word of it. He [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recently came across AJ Kohn&#8217;s post &#8220;Mega Menus are Mega Awful&#8221; over at Blind Five Year Old. I have to say that I agree with almost every word of it. He [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-5528</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 22:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yark,

Thanks for your comments. Agreed that any UX pattern can be applied well or poorly. As I&#039;ve stated before I simply think mega menus have a very niche function and, for good or for bad, are generally not well implemented. 

I really like your question though. Because there is a gray area between a regular menu and a mega menu. In fact, I think some mega menus are the product of regular menu scope creep - hence the problem. One of the issues I often find is that &lt;strong&gt;very&lt;/strong&gt; few people want to test two different menus side by side, because it touches navigation and information architecture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yark,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. Agreed that any UX pattern can be applied well or poorly. As I&#8217;ve stated before I simply think mega menus have a very niche function and, for good or for bad, are generally not well implemented. </p>
<p>I really like your question though. Because there is a gray area between a regular menu and a mega menu. In fact, I think some mega menus are the product of regular menu scope creep &#8211; hence the problem. One of the issues I often find is that <strong>very</strong> few people want to test two different menus side by side, because it touches navigation and information architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Yark</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-5520</link>
		<dc:creator>Yark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mega menus are like anything in UX design, a tool you can use for good or evil. The construct itself is not awful; rather, their application can be if not well thought out.

I agree with the thoughts on telling a story. Removing the editorial story from your site is not a good idea;however, some sites like amazon do not require a story. In Amazon&#039;s case, I just want to get to an item or category quickly. The context must be considered.

A mega menu can still drive to important sub-areas that are the beginnings of stories. Often a forced middle point is not necessary. That said, content strategy should be considered before allowing users to leap past critical content.

One thing that hasn&#039;t been talked about much is when is the menu &quot;mega?&quot; Where is the line between a small multi-column menu and a &quot;mega&quot; menu? Does user reaction differ between them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mega menus are like anything in UX design, a tool you can use for good or evil. The construct itself is not awful; rather, their application can be if not well thought out.</p>
<p>I agree with the thoughts on telling a story. Removing the editorial story from your site is not a good idea;however, some sites like amazon do not require a story. In Amazon&#8217;s case, I just want to get to an item or category quickly. The context must be considered.</p>
<p>A mega menu can still drive to important sub-areas that are the beginnings of stories. Often a forced middle point is not necessary. That said, content strategy should be considered before allowing users to leap past critical content.</p>
<p>One thing that hasn&#8217;t been talked about much is when is the menu &#8220;mega?&#8221; Where is the line between a small multi-column menu and a &#8220;mega&#8221; menu? Does user reaction differ between them?</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-3263</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rick,

Yes, the contextual relevance issue is big from an SEO perspective. At a minimum the mega menu should only appear for the silo in which you&#039;re currently navigating. Unfortunately, I rarely see this being done, often because someone will posit that a user will want to, say, get from ladies blouses to shotgun ammo. 

I find that, in practice, mega menus are often the comfortable fallback for arguments and a &#039;lets try to please all the people all of the time&#039; type of mentality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>Yes, the contextual relevance issue is big from an SEO perspective. At a minimum the mega menu should only appear for the silo in which you&#8217;re currently navigating. Unfortunately, I rarely see this being done, often because someone will posit that a user will want to, say, get from ladies blouses to shotgun ammo. </p>
<p>I find that, in practice, mega menus are often the comfortable fallback for arguments and a &#8216;lets try to please all the people all of the time&#8217; type of mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-3260</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam,

You&#039;re right, the G+ add to circles interface suffers from the &#039;wacka mole&#039; problem. &lt;strong&gt;Very&lt;/strong&gt; frustrating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, the G+ add to circles interface suffers from the &#8216;wacka mole&#8217; problem. <strong>Very</strong> frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-3259</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil,

Yes, it might support that use case if I go directly to a site and then want to look at a specific category. I think the problem is that you can&#039;t feature all the categories so you have to be selective. 

Your example is actually a really good one because I don&#039;t think bathroom fittings should be in a mega menu. There would be &lt;strong&gt;way&lt;/strong&gt; too many other categories (bigger, more important ones) that would take priority. So that&#039;s where a click to the bathroom page would allow a full page presentation to provide context and direction. Otherwise you&#039;d have a laundry list of categories under Bathroom in a mega menu that might prove difficult to locate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>Yes, it might support that use case if I go directly to a site and then want to look at a specific category. I think the problem is that you can&#8217;t feature all the categories so you have to be selective. </p>
<p>Your example is actually a really good one because I don&#8217;t think bathroom fittings should be in a mega menu. There would be <strong>way</strong> too many other categories (bigger, more important ones) that would take priority. So that&#8217;s where a click to the bathroom page would allow a full page presentation to provide context and direction. Otherwise you&#8217;d have a laundry list of categories under Bathroom in a mega menu that might prove difficult to locate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bucich</title>
		<link>http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/mega-menus-are-mega-awful#comment-3251</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Bucich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having worked on a site that used a mega menu, have to say I&#039;m not a big fan. In our case, I feel it strongly diluted our contextual relevance for any particular silo.  When irrelevant keywords are mentioned in the code dozens of times before the actual content it isn&#039;t doing yourself any favors.  

The flip side was that the UX people felt that it helped users navigate the site. I think we could have found a happy medium that served both of our needs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked on a site that used a mega menu, have to say I&#8217;m not a big fan. In our case, I feel it strongly diluted our contextual relevance for any particular silo.  When irrelevant keywords are mentioned in the code dozens of times before the actual content it isn&#8217;t doing yourself any favors.  </p>
<p>The flip side was that the UX people felt that it helped users navigate the site. I think we could have found a happy medium that served both of our needs.</p>
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